MINUTES

OF THE MEETING OF THE

Council

Tuesday 25th March 2003

HELD AT THE TOWN HALL, WESTON-SUPER-MARE, SOMERSET.

Meeting Commenced: 6.00 p.m. Meeting Concluded: 8.15 p.m.

PRESENT: Councillors Howard Roberts (Chairman), Ian Peddlesden (Vice-Chairman), Elfan Ap Rees, Nigel Ashton, Felicity Baker, Jan Barber, Michael Bell, Jeremy Blatchford, Nicholas Brown, Peter Burden, John Carter, John Clark, Andrew Cole, Bob Cook, Alan Cotton, Peter Crew, Leslie Crutchley, Isabel Cummings, John Daws, Glyn Duck, Michael Fazackerley, Peter Fisher, Peter Goulbourn, Leighton Greenham, Ann Harley, John Heenan, Alan Hockridge, Ian Hogg, Peter Kehoe, Rosey Knifton, Derek Kraft, Muriel Kraft, Kenneth Lacey, Anthony Lake, Greta Lewis, Ronald Moon, George Morris, John Morris, Michael Nobes, John Norton-Sealey, Ian Parker, Hugh Parsons, Ian Porter, Bill Prosser, Michael Roe, David Shopland, Richard Skinner, Bob Steadman, Chanel Stevens, Patrick Taylor, Arthur Terry, Richard Tucker, Barry Walters, John Wiltshire, Deborah Yamanaka, Jan Young.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE: Councillors Bob Bateman, Peter Bryant, Elizabeth Frappell and Michael Lyall.

COU 150

Prayer

The Rev. Norman Wallwork offered prayer.

COU 151

Petition: Road Safety at St. Georges Hill, Easton-in-Gordano (Councillor Duck) (Agenda Item 3)

Councillor Duck presented a petition that was in the following terms:

“We the undersigned Residents and Users of the road that exits Easton-in-Gordano at St. Georges Hill onto the A369 are seriously concerned at our safety when attempting to use the junction. Recent highway measures removing the slip lane into Easton-in-Gordano from junction 19 direction has not produced the desired result.

We call upon North Somerset Council to take urgent action to improve the safety for road users by installing traffic control signals. We also request that the slip lane recently removed by ‘hatching’ be re-instated.”

Councillor Duck made a statement in respect of the petition.

The Chairman referred the petition to Councillor Burden, the Executive Councillor for Strategic Planning.

COU 152

Declarations of Interest (Agenda Item 4)

Members declared the interests below –

Councillor Wiltshire – interest in Locking Castle Learning and Resource Centre arising from his membership of the governing body of a relevant school.

Councillor Porter – interests in Locking Castle Learning and Resource Centre and the 2003-2004 Draft Update on the Youth Justice Plan 2002-2005 arising from his position as a Youth Court Magistrate.

COU 153

Minutes – 4th March 2003 (Agenda Item 5)

RESOLVED: that the minutes of the meeting be approved as a correct record.

It was noted that, although Councillor Bell was recorded as present for the meeting, he had arrived late.

COU 154

Chairman’s Announcements (Agenda Item 6)

Last Meeting

This being the last Council Meeting of the current Municipal Year, the Chairman thanked all Members and officers for the support that they had given to him. He particularly thanked Liz Winter, his Personal Assistant.

COU 155

Leader’s Announcements (Agenda Item 6)

(a) Thanks to Officers

Councillor Roe, the Leader of the Council, thanked the officers for their help and assistance during the period of the current Council.

He also expressed satisfaction that Mr. David Turner, currently of Buckinghamshire County Council, had accepted the post of Director of Development and Environment.

(b) Thanks to Retiring Councillors

Councillor Roe, the Leader of the Council, referred to those Members who had indicated that they would not be seeking re-election. He particularly mentioned the following Members and the contributions they had made to North Somerset Council and predecessor authorities: Councillor Prosser (37 years), Councillor Wiltshire (21 years), Councillor Lacey (20 years), Councillor Mrs. Young (17 years), Councillor Greenham (8 years), Councillor Mrs. Knifton (12 years), Councillor Mrs. Frappell, and Councillor Goulbourn.

Councillor Hockridge made a statement of appreciation on behalf of the Liberal Democrat Group.

Councillor Stevens made a statement of appreciation on behalf of the Labour Group.

Councillor Lacey made a statement of appreciation on behalf of the Independent and Green Group.

COU 156

Chief Executive’s Announcements (Agenda Item 6)

On behalf of the staff, Graham Turner, the Chief Executive Officer, expressed appreciation to those Members who had indicated that they would be retiring at the end of this current Municipal Year. In particular he referred to Councillor Prosser’s service.

Councillor Prosser and other Members responded accordingly.

The Council expressed its appreciation to the retiring Members with acclamation.

COU 157

Forward Plan Presented by the Executive (Agenda Item 7)

Councillor Roe, Chairman of the Executive, presented the Forward Plan (dated 14th February 2003) and made a statement thereon.

RESOLVED: that the Forward Plan be received.

COU 158

Advance Written Questions (Agenda Item 8)

Advance written questions to the relevant Members were received and the questions and the replies are contained in Appendix 1.

COU 159

Question Time (Agenda Item 9)

Oral questions were directed to the relevant Members. The Members concerned and the summary notes and the topics involved are contained in Appendix 2.

COU 160

Reports and Matters Referred from the Executive 11th March 2003 (Agenda Item 10) Report and Matter Referred from the Children and Young People Select Committee 11th March 2003 (Agenda Item 11)

(Minute EXE 180) Grant of Renewal Leases – Shop Premises in Weston-super-Mare

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe, seconded by Councillor Ashton and

RESOLVED: that the recommendation be approved and adopted.

(Minute EXE 181) 2003-2004 Draft Update on the Youth Justice Plan 2002-2005

The Council also considered the recommendation contained in Minute CYP 46 of the Children and Young People Select Committee.

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe, seconded by Councillor Ashton and

RESOLVED: that the recommendation of the Executive be approved and adopted.

(Minute EXE 184) Locking Castle Learning and Resource Centre

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe, seconded by Councillor Ap Rees and

RESOLVED: that the recommendation be approved and adopted.

(Minute EXE 186) Provision of Scientific Services for the Council

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe, seconded by Councillor Crew and

RESOLVED: that the recommendation be approved and adopted.

(Minute EXE 189) Proposed Healthy Living Centre, Lonsdale Avenue, Weston-super-Mare

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe, seconded by Councillor Ashton and

RESOLVED: that the recommendation be approved and adopted.

(Minute EXE 191) Albert Road Depot, Portishead

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe, seconded by Councillor Fisher and

RESOLVED: that the recommendation be approved and adopted.

(Minute EXE 192) Catering Outlets, Weston-super-Mare Seafront and Grant of Leases in respect of Carlton Kiosk, the Rozel Café and the Victorian Café

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe, seconded by Councillor Ap Rees and

RESOLVED: that the recommendations be approved and adopted.

COU 161

Designation of the Chairman of the Council for the Municipal Year 2003/04 (Agenda Item 15)

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe, seconded by Councillor Hockridge and

RESOLVED: that Councillor Peddlesden be designated for election as the Chairman of the Council for the Municipal Year 2003/04.

COU 162

Designation of the Vice-Chairman of the Council for the Municipal Year 2003/04 (Agenda Item 16)

Motion: Moved by Councillor Fisher, and seconded by Councillor Daws –

“That Councillor Cook be designated for election as the Vice-Chairman of the Council for the Municipal Year 2003/04.”

Amendment: Moved by Councillor Brown and seconded by Councillor Nobes –

“That Councillor Shopland be designated for election as the Vice-Chairman of the Council for the Municipal Year 2003/04.”

The Amendment was LOST.

It was thereupon

RESOLVED: that the Substantive Motion, recorded above as Motion, be approved and adopted.

COU 163

Exclusion of Press and Public

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roberts, seconded by Councillor Roe and

RESOLVED: that the press and public be excluded from the meeting during consideration of the following item of business on the ground that its consideration will involve the disclosure of exempt information as defined in Section 100I of the Local Government Act 1972, paragraph 9 of Schedule 12A of Part 1.

COU 164

Weston-super-Mare Football Club – Surrender of Lease and Sale of Land (Agenda Item 17) (EXEMPT ITEM)

The Chief Executive Officer presented a report.

Motion: Moved by Councillor Roe and seconded by Councillor Fisher –

“(1) That the surrender of the lease held by Weston-super-Mare Association Football Club as detailed in recommendation 1 of the report, be approved;

(2) that the simultaneous sale of the Council’s freehold interest in the same area, as detailed in recommendation 2 of the report, be approved; and

(3) that the simultaneous sale of the area of land adjacent to the leased area, as detailed in recommendation 3 of the report, be approved.”

Amendment: Moved by Councillor Duck and seconded by Councillor Shopland –

“That funds raised from these proposals be used for the provision of a sprinkler system at the Locking Castle Learning and Resource Centre.”

The Chairman ruled that the Amendment was not relevant to the Motion and that it therefore be not heard.

It was thereupon

RESOLVED: that the Motion be approved and adopted.

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Chairman

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APPENDIX 1

NORTH SOMERSET COUNCIL

COUNCIL MEETING, 25TH MARCH 2003

ADVANCE WRITTEN QUESTIONS (Agenda Item 8)

QUESTION NO. 1

From Councillor Greenham

To Councillor Crew, Executive Member for Environment and Community

Neighbourhood Wardens

“Portishead is still without Neighbourhood Wardens despite having many Neighbourhood Watches. A number of residents have voiced concern that while they provided the initiative for setting up the Watches, this Authority’s initiative for Neighbourhood Wardens has been slow in advancing into the town.

Can Portishead, with its ever increasing number of residents, look forward to having Neighbourhood Wardens appointed in the near future?”

Reply:

“Yes, the Neighbourhood Wardens Scheme is a success and we are reviewing the best way to improve and widen the service.

Avon and Somerset Constabulary has appointed six Community Support Officers for North Somerset - these have broader powers and responsibilities and some of this resource will operate in Portishead it is hoped in early May.

I will write to Councillor Greenham with the full details.”

QUESTION NO. 2

From Councillor Greenham

To Councillor Roe, Leader of the Council

Support Against Racist Incidents (SARI)

“The recently published 2001-2002 Annual Report of SARI makes contentious comment on page 9 that ‘SARI’s work in North Somerset this year has again been heavily subsidised by funding from the other three local authorities (viz. Bristol, Bath and North East Somerset and South Gloucestershire: my italics). Despite the fact that funding has not increased, our casework has risen from 11 to 13 new cases. This is in addition to the cases carried over from the previous year.’ Eight of the 13 new cases are located in Weston-super-Mare as denoted in the accompanying analysis.

SARI’s final plea reads: ‘We hope that increased funding will enable us to continue to work in this region. If funding does not increase we will be forced to cut back or cease service delivery in the area. This will obviously be a body blow for the already isolated ethnic minority community in North Somerset.’

I believe with many others that SARI is worthy of our support, and ask if an increase in funding for 2002-2003 will be awarded to this important external support service?”

Reply:

Councillor Roe reported that there would be a significant increase in the grant to this organisation during the current financial year.

QUESTION NO. 3

From Councillor Greenham

To Councillor Terry, Executive Member for Learning

Weston College In Portishead Outreach Centre

“This outreach centre is to close on April 17 next due to circumstances over which the College has minimum control, namely, the need of Crest Nicholson to proceed with its development of the land abutting the Marina in which the outreach centre is presently located within the decrepit Allbright and Wilson offices. You will recall that when its excellently appointed original premises in Portishead were consumed by the Waitrose building the College tried in vain to find similar premises, but without success. The proposed closure will leave many students unable to complete their BCS ‘European Driving Licence’ qualification in computer management; while there are outreach centres at both Nailsea and Clevedon for continuation of their ICT courses, these are not easily accessed by bus. Many of the students are in the 45-65 age range and without cars. The Slade Road school site would make excellent temporary accommodation except that it will be many months before the school there moves into its new school building. Can you suggest any stop-gap temporary premises for Weston College In Portishead Centre, preferably around the time of its closure, in order to sustain its facilities for residents? I consider its loss from our expanding town is one the residents can ill-afford – do you agree we should move quickly on this issue?”

Reply:

“I have asked officers to contact the College to see if there is any way the LEA might be able to offer assistance. However, as you rightly indicate, I understand that the College has already undertaken its own investigations, but has not been able to find suitable premises.”

QUESTION NO. 4

From Councillor Carter

To Councillor Roe, Leader of the Council

Support for British Forces

“Recently our LIB DEM M.P., Brian Cotter, together with LIB DEM M.E.P. Graham Watson, led WESTON and Somerset in a protest against the Gulf War. They never seem to protest against the real evil men, though.

My cousin Sgt. Stan Rich (Welsh Recce Corps) was killed by the GERMANS, and my friend Police Sgt. John Bennison was murdered by the I.R.A. Saddam is another serious threat to peace, especially now that he has nearly developed a suit-case size nuclear bomb.

Now the war has started, will you use any public opportunity to support our Forces, especially those from Somerset?”

Reply:

Councillor Roe indicated that views on the issues were divided and he supported the Forces.

QUESTION NO. 5

From Councillor Clark

To Councillor Crew, Executive Member for Environment and Community

Waste Skips

“In the Wyndham Way car park, in Portishead, the waste paper skips have been re-positioned so that it is no longer possible to unload directly from a car. Residents are now expected to carry papers across a pavement, between any parking spot and the skip. Would it not be more sensible for the paper-banks to be located in a more user friendly manner and reduce the chances of paper being dropped and blown away?

In Black Rock Quarry Civic Amenity Site, the individual bottle banks have been replaced by one giant skip. Prior to this blue, brown and clear glass was sorted by the general public. Do we receive the same return for the jumble of bottles which are now collected?” 

Reply:

“The recycling banks in Wyndham Way have recently been moved due to vandalism. However this decision will be reconsidered in view of the question.

The bottle banks in Black Rock Quarry have been replaced by one large bin because it is more appropriate to collect mixed glass. This is due to the glass now being crushed and used for recycled road repair material.”

QUESTION NO. 6

From Councillor Clark

To Councillor Ap Rees, Executive Member for Economic Development

Somerset Hall

“In the Somerset Hall, Portishead, the curtains are now in such a poor condition that they no longer provide a proper blackout during matinees. I am told that the staff have had to trim the frayed edges to make them more presentable.

The emergency lighting system appears to have been replaced by an arrangement which leaves unsightly wires snaking across the walls.

The Hall needs investment if it is to be a viable venue. This means more than providing chairs which were cast-offs from the Winter Gardens.

When can we anticipate a serious investment in this asset?”

Reply:

Councillor Ap Rees indicated that he was aware that Somerset Hall could make use of more subsidy but, in the present budget situation, this was not possible and the hall was not used enough to generate additional income on its own. Despite this, he would continue to look into ways of attracting viable investment and meanwhile would carry out improvements and maintenance work as required to meet health and safety standards and this included matters already in the 2003 Budget Programme. Additionally, a business plan was being prepared and this would involve local people and organisations in the future management of the facility.

QUESTION NO. 7

From Councillor Bell

To Councillor Ap Rees, Executive Member for Economic Development

Knightstone Island

“Can you update me on progress with the proposed redevelopment of Knightstone Island? Can you indicate when you expect a planning application to be submitted? Will you share with Council the views of residents who attended public consultation meetings before Christmas and the views of those who attended a recent Civic Society briefing on the project?”

Reply:

Councillor Ap Rees referred to the Knightstone Regeneration Project and stressed that the principle of regenerating Knightstone Island, with public access and mixed used being retained, was popular with the majority of local residents and that the Council was continuing to listen carefully to consultees before encouraging the preferred developer to enter a formal planning application.

In response to a supplementary question, Councillor Ap Rees stressed that more discussions and consultations had to take place before a planning application could be considered.

QUESTION NO. 8

From Councillor Bell

To Councillor Crew, Executive Member for Environment and Community

Chewing Gum on Pavements

“Is the Executive Member aware of the excessive amounts of discarded chewing gum on many pavements across North Somerset? Can he comment on the Council’s strategy for dealing with this problem? Has he investigated the possibility of hiring or purchasing specialist equipment to remove chewing gum as other nearby authorities have done?”

Reply:

“The indiscriminate discarding of chewing gum is a problem for councils throughout the UK. This Council is continually removing gum where possible but this is increasingly difficult where equipment powerful enough to remove gum is also capable of removing sand from block paving joints and making holes in tarmac areas.

More sophisticated equipment is continually being developed and this Council will take advantage of this technology as it arrives. The good news is that the Government is looking at working with gum manufacturers to share the problem.”

In response to a supplementary question Councillor Crew indicated that he was looking into the question of improving the situation in Regent Street.

QUESTION NO. 9

From Councillors Mrs. Harley, Lake, Parsons and Mrs. Young

To Councillor Burden, Executive Member for Strategic Planning

Heavy Goods Vehicle Ban in Banwell

“Can Cllr. Burden confirm his commitment to (1) an application for an experimental non-local Heavy Goods Vehicle ban in Banwell and (2) discussions with Somerset County Council for a similar ban through Burrington Coombe?”

Reply:

“Options for a heavy goods vehicle ban in Banwell are still under consideration and I expect to receive a report from officers shortly. Unfortunately, there are complicated technical and legal issues to consider which are taking some time to investigate and understand. However, you may be assured of my commitment to reducing the impact of heavy goods vehicles in Banwell.

Further discussions with Somerset County Council have already been held regarding an HGV ban through Burrington Combe and they have confirmed their previous view in a letter received in February that they believe it should ‘share the load of local freight movements with the A371, thus reducing the impacts of heavy goods vehicles on settlements on both routes’. I am, however, happy to continue my discussions with Somerset County Council.”

In response to a supplementary question, Councillor Burden undertook to consider the impact on Stock Lane and Blagdon.

QUESTION NO. 10

From Councillor Nobes

To Councillor Terry, Executive Member for Learning

School Budgets

“Could the Executive Member for Learning confirm that a number of schools in North Somerset are facing budget deficits at the end of this financial year and that many of them are forecasting even greater deficits at the end of the next financial year?

Could he also confirm that at least one Secondary School is facing a deficit of approximately £200,000 by April 2004 and could he ensure that all Members of the Council are circulated with a complete list of all schools, both Primary and Secondary, facing such deficits at the end of both this and next financial year?

Could he also confirm that a number of schools are, as a result of these deficits, likely to lose staff, both teaching and non-teaching, and could he identify those schools facing this problem?”

Reply:

“As at 31 March 2002 there were four secondary schools with deficits, one school, Broadoak with a deficit of £250,047 has its delegation withdrawn and the other three schools have a licensed deficit agreement with North Somerset.

It is early to say how many schools will be in deficit at the end of the year as the accounts have not yet been closed but based on the regular monitoring of school finances there are likely to be eight (out of 78) schools with deficits as at 31 March 2003. The draft school balances are expected to be known after 6 June 2003 in respect of the financial year 2002-03 and the full list is published annually in the Section 52 Outturn Statement at the end of September.

As to the forecast for 2003-04, it is too early given that under the North Somerset Scheme for Financing Schools, schools are not required to submit their school budget to North Somerset Council until 31 May. However, the Finance Team has been targeting those schools with known budget difficulties or where schools themselves have asked for an early visit due to their concerns.

As at 24 March 2003 six schools (out of 78) have invited formal consultation with Trade Unions on redundancies for 31 August 2003. In addition, seven headteachers have indicated that they are likely to go to governing bodies with proposals requiring reductions for August 2003.

It is too early to be sure of the final level of job losses, as schools have not yet finalised budgets for the 2003-04 financial year. In June 2003 it will be clearer on the job losses for August 2003, which have been the subject of consultation. In addition, there will be schools, particularly secondary schools, which will reduce staff without consulting by not filling vacancies.”

QUESTION NO. 11

From Councillor Cotton

To Councillor Crew, Executive Member for Environment and Community

Waste Management Strategy

“North Somerset Council is now committed to a major extension of recycling to which I see merit. However, recent well-publicised national academics have stated that this is the wrong prescription and that waste-to-heat by some form of incineration is the right approach.

Councillor Crew answer two questions:

1. What progress is being made on the pilot gasification project?

2. Why does he think that the top academics have got it wrong?”

Reply:

“Following recent discussions with IET on the gasification project, the Council reiterated its intention to maintain the agreed timescale for the plant to be completed by the end of 2003. If IET is unable to meet this programme the Council will seek to work with alternative partners to complete the project.

The waste hierarchy, Reduce Reuse Recycle Recover and final disposal seeks to bring some order of priority to waste management options. Whilst it is accepted that landfilling waste is the cheapest option in the UK, this solution is not possible for the long term due to the Landfill Directive.”

In response to a supplementary question, Councillor Crew confirmed that should improved incineration arrangements become available then these would be investigated.

APPENDIX 2

NORTH SOMERSET COUNCIL

COUNCIL MEETING, 25TH MARCH 2003

QUESTION TIME (Agenda Item 9)

QUESTION NO. 1

From Councillor Lacey

To Councillor Roe, Leader of the Council

The Blakehay

Councillor Lacey enquired as to the future of the Blakehay and whether the Council would support it.

Councillor Roe indicated that he was being kept well informed of the developments concerning the Blakehay and would do all that he could to ensure its future.

QUESTION NO. 2

From Councillor Mrs. Harley

To Councillor Roe, Leader of the Council

The Budget

Councillor Mrs. Harley enquired as to whether Councillor Roe had received a reply to the letter that he had sent to Nick Raynsford, the Minister for Local Government.

Councillor Roe confirmed that he had now received a reply and Mr. Raynsford had acknowledged that the Government had sought to equalise Council Tax throughout the country. Councillor Roe hoped to meet Mr. Raynsford in the near future and he would raise issues relating to the level of Council Tax with him.

QUESTION NO. 3

From Councillor Kehoe

To Councillor Terry, Executive Member for Learning

Education Standards

Councillor Kehoe referred to the fact that the Adult Learning Inspectorate report on North Somerset had been generally critical. He enquired as to what re-assurance could be given regarding plans to improve the arrangements between the Council and its prime contractor, Weston College, which had been described as “very weak”?

Councillor Terry confirmed that a new plan had recently been completed and work was in progress to address the issues.

Councillor Kehoe raised a supplementary question and stated that since North Somerset Council received in excess of £110,000 per annum from the Learning and Skills Council specifically for the provision of 3,500 hours of adult and community non-accredited learning, would Councillor Terry advise of the current level of non-accredited learning provided by Weston College in 2002-03 and planned for in 2003-04 in return for this funding. Councillor Terry undertook to supply Councillor Kehoe with the details.

QUESTION NO. 4

From Councillor Walters

To Councillor Burden, Executive Member for Strategic Planning

Repair of Potholes

Councillor Walters enquired whether Councillor Burden would congratulate the officers on arranging for an improved service for the repair of potholes.

Councillor Burden indicated that he would congratulate the officers accordingly.

QUESTION NO. 5

From Councillor Mrs. Young

To Councillor Terry, Executive Members for Learning

Churchill Sports Centre

Councillor Mrs. Young expressed appreciation for the additional funds allocated for improvements at Churchill Sports Centre but she stressed that further facilities were required including an astro turf pitch and she wondered whether these could be provided.

Councillor Terry was unable to confirm whether such facilities could be included in a programme.

QUESTION NO. 6

From Councillor Blatchford

To Councillor Burden, Executive Member for Strategic Planning

Traffic Signals at Stockway North, Nailsea

Councillor Blatchford enquired whether Councillor Burden agreed that the funds used for traffic signals at Stockway North, Nailsea should have been used to bury cables in High Street, Nailsea.

Councillor Burden indicated that local people had been consulted on the works and there would have been insufficient funds for burying cables.

QUESTION NO. 7

From Councillor Duck

To Councillor Burden, Executive Member for Strategic Planning

Ham Green Hospital, Section 106 Agreement

Councillor Duck referred to works required by the Section 106 Agreement relating to this site that had still not been completed and he wanted to know what action was being taken.

Councillor Burden confirmed that the situation was unsatisfactory and the matter was being pursued.

QUESTION NO. 8

From Councillor Taylor

To Councillor Burden, Executive Member for Strategic Planning

Highway Junction at Sainsburys, Worle

Councillor Taylor enquired as to when the difficulties at this junction were to be addressed.

Councillor Burden acknowledged the situation and confirmed that the problems were being pursued.

QUESTION NO. 9

From Councillor Heenan

To Councillor Roe, Leader of the Council

Access by Members to E-Mail Facilities

Councillor Heenan referred to the restriction which meant that Members could not gain access to e-mail facilities after 6 o’clock and he wanted to know if Councillor Roe would consider the matter.

Councillor Roe indicated that he was not aware of the situation but he would look into the matter.